The Church Today

An interactive address given  at the ARM (Wales) Annual General Meeting.

by the Revd Nicholas Jones, Rector of Pencoed, Bridgend.

Nick started by reading from Genesis 6:13-22.  He said he thought that this passage was appropriate for us today - us being the Church in Wales, but not just the Anglicans.  In one sense it was appropriate because it was about the Flood, and we had all seen a lot of that lately.  But the main point was that it was about God telling Noah exactly what he should do, and as it says in verse 22: Noah did everything just as God commanded him.

Nick had been hearing a lot about what God is doing in Wales recently.  In Bridgend  he has had a group of forty pastors from Indonesia,  who heard a call from God to pray for Wales.  They didn't just get down and pray in Indonesia, they came to Wales to do it; and so far they have come five times, at their own expense.  Much of what they had to say was about prayer.  In Indonesia they have prayer towers, which are manned twenty four hours a day by priests and prophets and other functionaries.  He has also met a South American who has come specifically to pray for Wales in fulfilment of what started in 1904.  Sadly, we don't seem to have the same enthusiasm here in Wales.

Nick posed the question: "What are we doing in our local churches and dioceses and in ARM (Wales)?  Are we ready to do what God wants - are we ready to teach and nurture newcomers, for example?"

A few years ago, when Nick first became an incumbent, he found that everybody expected him to make decisions.  Eventually he contacted a couple of clergy friends and they met and prayed together.  They formed a diocesan renewal team, and discovered that there were other clergy who were into renewal but were isolated and in need of support.  They wanted to encourage them, because it is so easy to become isolated - clergy fear that if they stick their necks out and do something different, they will get criticised.  Now they have a clergy support group which holds monthly meetings; they go around the parishes ministering in the gifts of the Holy Spirit.  It is very important for the Church to have clergy in renewal, for the sake of the lay people; and we also need lay support teams.

When Nick first moved to Pencoed he made contact with leaders of the free churches in the Bridgend area; they began meeting together and praying for revival.  Then there is also the  New Wine Network, which is  encouraging people into renewal, and which has organised a gathering at Hebron Hall on 26th March next year.  Thus there seems to be a number of strands which are coming together and leading us in the direction to which God is pointing, towards renewal and revival; and we should run with it!

Next Nick divided us into groups of six, carefully excluding colleagues and spouses, so that we could share with each other what is going on, in the churches, in our area.  Maybe, he said, we shall hear something new and encouraging; maybe we shall find some common ground; maybe we shall discover some needs.  Little did he know.........

Group 1 told us about a carol service in a pub.  What a wonderful idea!

Group 2 said that it could be very frustrating for lay people if they wanted renewal and their vicar was just not interested in it.

Group 3 said where there was a need for a clergy support group they should ask the church.  If the congregation understand their vicar's problems then they are in the best position to offer both prayer and practical support.

Group 4 said there was a general need for support, and lay people feel unsupported when their vicar is like the one in group 2.

Group 5 said that many of our church services are not friendly towards newcomers.  Every church should have two services on a Sunday: one of the traditional kind and one that is more free and open.  Also, clergy can be a bottleneck in restricting the flow of the Holy Spirit.  Ideally the clergy should be attached to deaneries and allow the lay people to run each parish church.  One lady had a vision of the Church as a conical flask with the PCC and the people inside, and the stopper was the Vicar.  What could we do about it?  Answer: push the stopper out!

Group 6 again emphasised the feeling of isolation experienced by a lay person who may be the only one seeking renewal in a congregation of twenty. 

In the general discussion that followed, one lady told us the answer to these problems is to start a prayer fellowship in your own home; she has had one going for twenty five years and is now able to organise a bus-load to come to the Flames of  Fire Conference.  Another group have a morning prayer gathering in a house in their village, which includes Anglicans, Chapel and Pentecostals - and the Holy Spirit really moves amongst them.

Overall, vicars seemed to be getting a lot of stick in these discussions, and we were reminded that some congregations do expect the Vicar to do everything, (mainly because successive vicars had taught them that way).  In the general discussion we were urged to use the clergy to train the laity to lead; and we were reminded that in 1999,  Bishop Graham Dow said at our Conference that he would allow people to try out their ministries before they go for training, to make sure that they were suited for it.

In the final stages of the discussion, we were given some words: Mercy triumphs over judgement - we should beware judging people and condemning those who do not agree with our way of thinking.  We must also remember: Noah did everything just as God commanded him, and obey God in all details.

Finally each group used these thoughts to pray for each other; and then the Meeting prayed for the new Executive Committee.  The whole session was a very moving and rewarding experience and we are very grateful to Nick for serving us in this way.

Brian Newsom.                  

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